tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:10:42 +0000http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/index.htmnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)Blogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-2461673233350901062Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:39:00 +00002008-09-25T12:39:00.459ZI don't know how the guy asked the question if he can't spell the word, but nonetheless here's the GenreOnline.Net interview with Dave Filoni, in which the interviewer inquires about the canon status of the CGI series:Rivera: Fine thank you. I have a question with regard to the storyline and with regard to the new series and the previous series. I noticed while looking through the press materialshttp://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/09/filoni-on-cw-cgi-canon-and-eu.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-5443123545674023081Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:08:00 +00002008-09-23T04:08:00.207ZI haven't covered much about the writers of the JJ Abrams flick and their statements on canon (something to be corrected later), but I couldn't resist tossing this one out there:Alex Kurtzman: We did a lot of reading of the books. I think we consider the books canon to a large degree so it’s very important to us to stay consistent.Go have fun with that in your own heads. I'll share my thoughts http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/09/orci-kurtzman.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-1074433017979715594Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:23:00 +00002008-09-06T16:23:00.765ZAnother recent discussion on Trek canon featured a re-iteration of an old line I'd seen before from the anti-canon crowd. No, 'canon' is what writers in the series have to adhere to when expanding on the official fiction. 'Canon' was never something for the fandom. This, of course, is fallacy, based on the unfortunate myriad denotations of the term "canon", its confusions with denotations of "http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/09/canon-just-for-writers-no.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-2230076484762900350Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:25:00 +00002008-09-06T15:25:00.361ZAlthough I thought this obvious, I was reminded recently of the sort of confusion that people have if they fail to acknowledge proper rank and company information. A conversation on an EU Completist and Star-Trek-hate web board featured a conversation on Trek canon.The opening post of the thread (titled "Possible canon change for Star Trek?") features old quotes from Harry Lang that the poster http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/09/why-rank-and-company-matter.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-1158520918261164559Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:19:00 +00002008-08-13T00:19:01.137ZFrom here, a note from Dave Filoni (producer of the new Clone Wars CGI stuff) about the origins of Asajj Ventress. Given that I've already heard uninformed suggestions that she's an EU character so George is gung-ho for the EU, here's a bit of extra info to again demonstrate how uninformed such opinions are:"Ventress was a character that was actually developed for early concept art for Attack ofhttp://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/08/origins-of-ventress.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-5331571936145582762Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:21:00 +00002008-08-06T04:21:13.396ZAccording to my count I'm up to 74 non-hearsay quotes on the chronological page, and it would be higher for this year if I wasn't a slacker. I primarily focused on the Lucas quotes, though I do kinda wish I'd added that recent Chee quote about the novels. Oh crap, fine. 75 is a nicer, rounder sort of number. You guilted me into it. Ass.Anyway, the new quotes also appear on the ranked quotes http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/08/sw-quote-lists-updated.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-1584392519482276209Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:15:00 +00002008-08-06T01:15:08.689ZWhile we know from Lucas that the Clone Wars CGI movie and the series are his babies and a part of his Star Wars universe, there was some question remaining. Whereas the novelizations of the two film trilogies were all overseen by Lucas (he even had his name put on one that someone else wrote), I'd heard nothing about how the novelization for the Clone Wars CGI flick was being handled, other http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/08/chee-on-clone-wars-movie-novelization.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-3851962086615061020Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:53:00 +00002008-08-04T12:53:01.341ZThe fans are part of a Star Wars-built network Lucas divides into the father (films and TV), the son (licenced spins offs such as video games, books and comics) and the holy ghost (the fans and the internet).‘‘Everything in the father's world is consistent, mainly because I know it so well,'' he says.‘‘The son's world pretty much do their own thing. Once in a while they will check if they can http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/08/trinity-report-from-australia-et-cetera.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-6263177330386365656Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:59:00 +00002008-08-01T03:59:00.335ZEpisode MXXIX: Attack of the EU Continuity FansLOL Internet War! The . . . Oh wait, next movie, sorry.There is unrest on the StarWars.com Message Boards. Several thousand pounds' worth of fanboy has declared their intention to stop reading the EU.This Separatist movement, under the caloric intake of the mysterious Count Chocula, has made it difficult for the limited number of people named http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/08/defense-of-chee_2850.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-1164921895472246099Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:03:00 +00002008-07-27T04:04:55.303ZAn interesting exchange amongst the Comic-Con panel, confirming stuff we already knew. For instance, George's interest in the comics (which apparently constitutes his primary intake of EU material).It's interesting, too, to see how some people in the production staff keep trying to work EU material in, since it is almost absent from the Lucas stories.:Sansweet: So you guys are pretty familiar http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/07/lucas.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-4032819460623131370Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:32:00 +00002008-07-27T03:46:16.742Z(Source) “I am the father of our Star Wars movie world - the filmed entertainment, the features and now the animated film and television series,” he says. “And I’m going to do a live-action television series. Those are all things I am very involved in: I set them up and I train the people and I go through them all. I’m the father; that’s my work. Then we have the licensing group, which does the http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/07/yet-another-lucas-trinity-style-quote.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-4397980058591238738Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:51:00 +00002008-06-30T01:51:00.408Z"Recalls Barrett: 'I was the only little voice from the original series going around the country saying, 'Give The Next Generation a chance! It's gonna be marvelous!' The other seven [original cast members] were saying, 'They can't replace us! We know you fans aren't going to tolerate this!' Well, the fans are now willing to admit they made a mistake -- so they're tolerant and willing to seehttp://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/06/majel-on-gene-on-trek-post-roddenberry.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-8032869400846424962Wed, 14 May 2008 07:14:00 +00002008-05-14T07:14:44.880ZWhile I'd tried to keep myself mostly unspoiled regarding the Clone Wars animated series, after inadvertently finding myself with the trailer before me recently I decided to go looking. And, as it happened, some of the conversation occurred among hardcore EU-philes. The basic feelings I've seen from them overall range from excitement to alarm to rage, with most on the latter end of the spectrumhttp://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/05/t-canon-and-cwas-continuity.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-6260063409396811393Mon, 12 May 2008 01:07:00 +00002008-05-12T01:59:04.795ZMore from Lucas (hat tip: "Mange") George Lucas: 'Star Wars' won't go beyond Darth Vader The saga resumes in August, but don't expect any new ending from George Lucas. By Geoff Boucher, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer May 7, 2008 Thanks to CGI animation, the "Star Wars" saga is coming back to theaters this summer -- but George Lucas said fans shouldn't get their hopes up about any future http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/05/lucas-eu-is-sandbox-still-no-story-past.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-45526686369134100Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:03:00 +00002008-04-12T05:16:34.308ZGeorge! Chill! Seriously, this guy's on a roll. But boy, he scared me for a minute. See, for hundreds of years, men have pondered the utter peculiarity of the Christian doctrine of the Trinity. God is the father (er, uh, God? Oh wait, Yahweh, I suppose), the son (Jesus), and the wholly mysterious "holy ghost" (some celestial gaseous anomaly? I dunno). 1 = 3 = 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 = WTF. Now I http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/04/once-again-yet-another-new-lucas-quote.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-5440472193152395120Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:55:00 +00002008-03-22T15:55:44.499ZLucas was at something called ShoWest. I know nothing about it, except that it seemed to be Porno for Journos, and geek porn for me. We have, not one, but *three* separate instances of Lucas talking about the EU and how it fits (and doesn't). Let's roll with it as it came to me: Many hours ago, I received notice of a blog post to a very old thread. In it, a fellow called HellBlade8 (aka http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/03/bounty-showest-2008-reports.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-3226194296744750616Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:16:00 +00002008-01-21T07:28:51.753ZFrom Trekmovie.com: TrekMovie.com: Did you guys realize that when you set the construction of the USS Enterprise on Earth that it would spark controversy? Roberto Orci: Of course. TrekMovie.com: So what is your guys logic for setting it on land? Roberto Orci: Besides the thematic stuff we discussed, which is to connect it to today and make it clear. Firstly, there is the notion that there ishttp://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2008/01/star-trek-novels-here-we-go-again.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-4787492631870774429Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:57:00 +00002007-08-31T06:05:10.915Z. . . or, "Yet Another Roddenberry Quote on Trek Post-Roddenberry" Even to this day, some try to claim a lack of canonicity for post-Roddenberry Trek on the grounds of a statement from the TOS days in which Roddenberry stated "It's not Star Trek until I say it's Star Trek." As the argument goes, it was not possible for him to decide on whether things were Star Trek after his death, some 25 http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2007/08/yarqotpr.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-2292764595474035608Sun, 05 Aug 2007 18:30:00 +00002007-08-05T18:39:16.540ZOriginal Trek and TAS writer Dorothy ("D.C.") Fontana and CCCP's Paula Block have been asked some additional questions on canon, as reported by TrekMovie.com. PAULA BLOCK: “Canon” in the sense that I use it is a very important tool. It only gets muddled when people try to incorporate licensed products into “canon”—and I know a lot of the fans really like to do that. Sorry, guys—not trying to http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2007/08/idw-comics-interviews.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-4283054870896391516Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:53:00 +00002007-08-04T15:14:47.443ZIt seems that my years of research on the topic of Star Trek canon not only bore fruit on CanonWars.com, but have made their way elsewhere as well. A recent revision to the "Star Trek canon" page on Wikipedia leans quite heavily on that research. From references to the Roddenberry quotes I recalled and tracked down from the 1988 "One Generation to the Next" TV special, to the old Richard Arnoldhttp://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2007/08/pretty-cool-rather-flattering.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-4100920476905705006Sun, 06 May 2007 07:09:00 +00002007-05-06T07:28:59.266ZSome have argued in the past that Lucas must consider the EU to be part of his universe's canon because he's borrowed a few things from it. Examples include the name of the Imperial capital world "Coruscant", which Lucas decided to employ (albeit after considering alternatives) when making the prequels. The name itself came from one of Timothy Zahn's EU novels. But in order to be consistent,http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2007/05/pink-five-and-consistency.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-1856434120360838950Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:25:00 +00002007-04-24T12:32:42.463ZThis could be interesting. Besides the obvious cool factor, there might be some early comments regarding the ANH novelization and/or Splinter of the Mind's Eye, though the latter seems less likely given the topic of the fist film. There's a very outside chance that we may even see an early version of the "Gospel/Gossip" quote, though I'd imagine the timing's too early for any such http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2007/04/star-wars-early-days.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-8748136869474615212Mon, 19 Feb 2007 03:47:00 +00002007-02-19T04:17:41.268ZThough other matters have precluded much expansion of CanonWars beyond the original materials from ST-v-SW.Net, those are indeed coming. Eventually. But in the meantime, I've updated the main Star Wars canon page with the December 2006 info from Chee, and I've also created two different condensed versions of the page as I've long wanted to do. After all, the main SW canon overview weighs in athttp://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2007/02/updates.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-5394607079899210445Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:09:00 +00002007-02-18T23:22:22.883ZI've got quite a backlog of old links and errata that I've wanted to address on CanonWars, but never have gotten around to. One thing is this post from TheForce.Net, wherein we hear second-hand that the Dooku rationale of creating an Empire of Man and whatnot came from Lucas. This ties in a bit with something I've always said. See, I find the use of backstage info tricky at best when it http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2007/02/catching-up-backstage-info.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20999143.post-116796441859090208Fri, 05 Jan 2007 02:12:00 +00002007-01-05T02:33:38.613ZDear EU Completist readers (especially ones from SDN), and movie purists too: Now that Lucas, Rostoni, and even Chee (see last post) are all on the same bandwagon, stating that there are two separate continuities for Star Wars (a fact demonstrated and an opinion maintained by this author for years), I would like for you to join me in a little experiment: 1. Will you concede that there is more http://www.canonwars.com/weblog/2007/01/star-wars-canon-challenge.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (G2k)